Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. My grandmother Clarinda Vann, bossed the kitchen and the washing and turned the key to the big bank. He never come until the next day, so dey had to sleep in dat pen in a pile like hogs. We was too tired when we come in to play any games. There'd be races and people would have things what they was sellin' like moccasins and beads. Everybody laugh and was happy. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. McFadden, Marguerite, "The Saga of 'Rich Joe' Vann", Chronicles of Oklahoma, Vol. Isaac had been Young Joe's driver and he told me all about how rich Master Joe was and how he would look after us negroes. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. He sold one of my brothers, and one sister because they kept running off. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. Chief married Helizikinopo Ounaconoa cornstalk (born Moytoy). The Vanns were a prolific family who reused many names, so later in life he was referred to as "Rich Joe." He was one of eight children born to his father's nine wives. There'd be a whole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. But we couldnt learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters and figgers because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. In 1730, Sir Alexander Cuming, an emissary of King George II, conferred the title of Emperor on Chief Moytoy at Tellico, Tennessee. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they don't mind good he sell them off sometimes. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. We even had brown sugar and cane molasses most of de time before de War, sometimes coffee, too. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 23 October 1844). He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! I'm gonna give Lucy this black mare. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. Some of us had money. When the War come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. I got all my money and fine clothes from the marster and the missus. If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. Cherokee Vann. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. . It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. It's on records somewhere; old Seneca Chism and his family. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. We patted her grave and kissed the ground telling her goodbye. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. The beautiful brick house was surrounded by kitchens, slave quarters and mills, with apple and peach orchards covering the adjacent hills. They was Cherokee Indians. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. Then the preacher put you under water three times. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Anna Sophia Vann 1803-1874. He wouldn' take us way off, but just for a ride. The low class work in the fields. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Mr. Reese had a big flock of peafowls dat had belonged to Mr. Scott and I had to take care of demWhitefolks. They'd come to the door like this, "sh.." and go out quick again. We had a good song I remember. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. We git three or four crops of different things out of dat farm every ear, and something growing on dat place winter and summer. 502-524. It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." The engineer's name was Jim Vann. In de second year of de War he sold my mammy and my aunt dat was Uncle Joe's wife and my two brothers and my little sister. Sometimes just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. JOHN BOWLES, SR, CHIEF (_____1) was born Abt. In the master's yard was the slave cabin, one room long, dirt floor, no windows. Show more. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. Oh the news traveled up and down the river. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. Well, I go ahead, and make me a crop of corn all by myself and then I don't know what to do wid it. Pretty soon all de young Cherokee menfolks all gone off to de War, and de Pins was riding round all de time, and it ain't safe to be in dat part around Webber's Falls so old Master take us all to Fort Smith where they was a lot of Confederate soldiers. In 1840 there were 29 Vann families living in North Carolina. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. I sure did love her. They had run out of food and were starving, too weak and disillusioned to offer effective resistance. All the colored folks lined up and the overseer he tell them what they must do that day. Well, I'll tell you, you pull it out from the wall something like a shelf. Pappy's name was Caesar Sheppard and Mammy's name was Easter. My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobdy ever lacked for nothing. Someone call our names and everybody get a present. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. The spring time give us plenty of green corn and beans too. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. Someone rattled the bones. Chief passed away on month day 1777, at age 68 at death place. I would stay around about a week and help em and dey would try to git me to take something but I never would. Black Hock was awful attached to the kitchen. Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. He never seen them neither. Yes Lord Yes. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less Somehow or other they all took a liking to me, all through the family. Bornin Cherokee Nationon 27 Aug 1767to Joseph Vannand War-Li(MaryPolly) Cherokee-Clan-Blind-Savannah. Yes Sa. Robert Hicks ("Who went to live with the Indians") was born 1720 in Albermarle, Sussex, Virginia. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. Florence Smith was my first wife and Ida Vann the second. Brother of Ca-lieu-cah Mary Vann He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky and back. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. You know just what day you have to be back too. By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. Father John Trader U Wa Ni Vann. There was a big church. Dey didn't let us have much enjoyment. One year later my sister Phyllis was born on the same place and we been together pretty much of the time ever since, and I reckon dere's only one thing that could separate us slave born children. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. Married in 1795, Edgefield, South Carolina, USA, to Lucy Jones 1773-1822 with. We camp at dat place a while and old Mistress stay in de town wid some kinfolks. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. How did they hear about it at home? 1710, d. 1752. All the Vann marsters was good looking. We was at dat place two years and made two little crops. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. Yes, my dear Lord yes. Phebe Vann 1798-1840. The comfort accorded house slaves is in stark contrast to the lives of the field slaves described in other interviews. Born just after the end of the Cherokee War, he grew up in turbulent times. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. Had sacks and sacks of money. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. He jest kept him and he was a good Negro after that. 4. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. My mother died when I'se small and my father married Delia Vann. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken. Chief - Wikipedia Chief had 15 siblings: Joseph Big Vann, Margaret Weber (born Vann) and 13 other siblings. Then one day one of my uncles name Wash Sheppard come and tried to git me to go live wid him. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. Pappy wanted to go back to his mother when the War was over the slaves was freed. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. 2. Family Tree Profile Timeline John B. The man put dem on a block and sold em to a man dat had come in on a steamboat, and he took dem off on it when de freshet come down and de boat could go back to Fort Smith. Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. In one month you have to get back. According to English law, this made the two daughters Royal Princesses. Martha was born on September 18 1812, in near Conasauga, Old Cherokee Nation, Tennessee, USA. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouoldn't let his house slaves to with no common dress out. Pappa got the soldier fever from being in the War; no, I don't mean like the chills and fever, but just a fever to be in the army, I guess for he joined the regular U.S. Army after a while, serving five years in the 10th Cavalry at Fort Sill during the same time John Adair of Tahelquah and John Gallagher of Muskogee was in the army. When they wanted something put away they say, "Clarinda, come put this in the vault." 14, Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. My husband didn't give me nothing. John Joseph Vann B: 1730 Scotland, M: Wai-Li Princess of Cherokee - 1763,D: 1780 Tennessee, shot by son James (Chief Crazy James) John Vann. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. He moved his family to this location and resided there two or three years, until he could establish himself in the west.

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